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Well, Jay and I just got back from a day zero
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screening of Thunderbolts asterisk today This
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is the second to last film. We were getting out
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of the MCU before Avengers Doomsday Doomsday
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with only fantastic four first steps remaining
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Before we get to our next Avengers film So without
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further ado Jay scale of 1 to 10. What do you
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rate the Thunderbolts? I'm gonna give it a solid
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8 .5. You're giving it a solid 8 .5. You were
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a little higher than me I'm at a seven, right?
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Like leaning toward an eight, but still a seven
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for me. We had a couple of conversations right
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after the movie about this, and I'll upfront
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this. For me, I'd seen all the trailers and the
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marketing. My biggest issue with the film was
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I clocked the ending very early. It was pretty
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telegraphed kind of how it was going to end.
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Not in a bad way, but I was just like, oh, okay,
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yeah, I see where this is going. There were still
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a couple little surprises. But I clocked it really,
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really early. You didn't. You were pleasantly
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surprised. Yeah, that is what being a DC child
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gets you. Sometimes you're surprised by the MC.
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You're like, wait a minute. What? My. There were
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some good family themes, and I think the stuff
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at the end, we're going to do a spoiler video.
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So if you're watching this review, this is our
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spoiler -free review. Go to the other video.
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There's another video on the channel that's uploaded
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right after this one that will be our spoiler
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talk about Thunderbolts, and we're going to talk
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about all the spoilery details. So if you don't
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want spoilers, you're okay. We're just talking
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about the movie here. There was a lot of themes
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like with mental health and family and and together.
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You really liked. So talk about like what you
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were what what really drove you about those ones.
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I. I just really liked it's kind of dark and
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it is. It really hits home, I think, for a lot
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of people in like today's world, like it's this
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isn't like a oh, I went. And I saw like Iron
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Man just like beat up bad guys for like an hour
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and a half. And like I went home and was like,
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OK, cool. Like it wasn't a brain rot movie. You.
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You were like, OK, like, yeah, like sometimes
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I feel lonely and sometimes I feel helpless and
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it's. They really had that under, I don't know,
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that undertone throughout the movie. They gave
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you some stuff to chew on. Yeah, it's like oh
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shit. Okay. Damn. Okay. We're going here. All
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right it's like if you've ever been to church
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and you Swear that like the preacher is talking
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directly to you. That's how this movie is. Yes
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Um, let's talk a little bit about the performances
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the first one I want to highlight is Julia Louis
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Dreyfus as Valentina D Fontaine as she she points
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out very early in the film She does such a good
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job of making me absolutely despise her. The
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entire film, I was like, well, somebody please
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just kill this woman. I do not like you. Go away.
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I just want you to go away. And about three quarters
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of the way through the movie, I was like, wait,
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this is actually what she's going for. She is
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trying to make this character just, you don't
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like her at all. There is not a single redeeming
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quality. Nothing. And she does a really good
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job of that. Which performance has kind of stood
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out to you? I mean, the very obvious one, the
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actress I play is Elena. I mean, yeah, you get
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so much of her in this movie, like way more than
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any of the other movies. So I really liked it.
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And there's like some. I don't know, like some
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really like iconic moments, I think, like throughout
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the movie that you're just like, like one, it's
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like, damn, like the scene looks really, really
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good. And then it's just like. Yeah, she's just
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a total, you know, total awesome rock star in
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this movie. They give her a lot of deeper stuff
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to work with in this film than you saw in either
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Blackwood or Hawkeye, where we've seen her previously.
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And as and as much as I loved her, her interactions
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with Kate Bishop and Hawkeye and her interactions
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with Natasha Romanoff and Black Widow, this is
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much deeper. Right. There are some points where
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she goes back and forth between calling Red Guardian
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Dad and Alexi. Did you notice that? I noticed
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the dad a couple of. A couple of points. And
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then when she's mad at him, she calls him a Lexi.
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Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely this like throughout
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the movie, like kind of like this feel of like,
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no, like you weren't there for me. You're not
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my dad. I'm mad at you. And then it's like, but
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you're my dad. Yeah. That kind of brings us to
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David Harbour, who I think is just having a blast
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playing Red Guardian. He's just he's having so
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much fun. Oh, he loves those. Yeah. If if Yelena
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is the soul of this movie and she's definitely
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the POV character, she's the one we're supposed
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to be watching this film through. I kind of feel
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like he's the heart of this movie. Like he's
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he's he's the whole time. He's like, I want everyone
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to be together. I want. better things the whole
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time. He's like. Let's do better. And I'm like,
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you know, and he's just having so much fun. Yeah.
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Being him that crazy Russian, you know, White
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Russell does a pretty good job as John Walker.
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Oh, yeah. Solid. They don't really give Ghost
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a whole lot to do. She's fine. There's nothing
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wrong with her performance, but she's definitely
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kind of the odd one out. in the Thunderbolts.
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And I'll be honest, I didn't love Sebastian Stan's
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performance. You and I talked about this a little
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bit and disagreed. It just it felt a little like
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gruff, angry guy. The whole time. Yeah, I I think
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one. So one, we didn't. You don't you don't see
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a whole lot of him like he's there, but he's
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not doing anything very like meaningful throughout
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about halfway through the movie. Yeah. I think
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one that might have been like a director like,
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hey, like we already know your backstory. You've
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already been you've already had your spotlight.
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We want to focus on these new heroes. But then
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also, I think like the whole like rough tough
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guy, I think I think and this is just my theory,
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but I think like they're trying to gear him up
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to be a leader of, you know, kind of, I don't
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know, whoever replaces the Avengers or whatever,
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you know, it's like, hey, like I need to be this
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like tough guy or any kind of together. Maybe
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I guess my problem was just like I look at Falcon
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and the Winter Soldier. Right. Did you watch
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that show? Yeah. They kind of tried to like they
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tried to smooth a lot of his rough edges like
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give him some humanity because he's not the Winter
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Soldier anymore. Right. Yeah. You know, and the
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the stuff with Sam's sister and, you know, just
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like him trying to not be the Winter Soldier
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anymore. And I kind of felt like this was a step
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backwards for for Bucky. You know. Yeah. I mean,
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I don't know. Maybe maybe they did some marketing
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research and they were like, no, we don't really
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like the smooth Bucky. Like we want the the rougher
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Bucky. I don't know. Maybe. Overall, I think
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that this is definitely one of the better films
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in this face of the MCU. Yes. Yes. I was actually
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kind of surprised because I was like, I hope
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it's good. I don't really know, though. This
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could kind of be like a movie. I'm just going
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to go check it out. And then I was actually surprised.
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I actually loved the movie. It was great. I don't
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know about Bob. We like Bob. We see Bob in the
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trailers. Bob is there. We don't see a lot of
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Bob in the trailers, but we do see Bob. Bob is
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Bob's there. Bob is funny. I liked Bob. You know,
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he was he was good. Right and we'll talk about
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that go to the spoiler Video if you want to know
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more about Bob Bob is important, right? You guys
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don't get that. He the whole story hinges on
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Bob Post credit scenes, we're not gonna spoil
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them here both worth watching one is very funny
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It's just silly and then the other one starts
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like oh, this is silly and that's like, oh no,
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this is actually important And again, we'll talk
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about that. Go check out our spoiler view for
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talk about the post credit scenes in. Yeah, we'll
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put it. We'll put a card somewhere here up down
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that way. So, yeah, overall, Jay's got this at
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an eight point five. I've got it at a solid seven
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leaning toward an eight. Overall, we enjoyed
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it. We saw it in IMAX, which I thought was great.
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Yeah, it's a visually very stimulating movie.
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I would like to thank the nice folks at AMC Obviously,
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you know, the title is Thunderbolts with an asterisk.
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They gave us these cool metal We all got cool
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metal asterisk keychains with the Thunderbolts
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in IMAX It's hard to see on there in the back
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and they're actually like they're solid metal.
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They're like We walked in we did our tickets
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and they were like here here's some stuff and
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we're like, oh neat presents What was the last
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time you got a present at the movie? I think
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it was back in the day when they used to do like
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midnight premieres. I don't know. I'm too old,
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too old to do midnight premieres. Yeah. But I
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remember they used to do like the they would
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hand you out like the the miniature movie poster.
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Yeah. Be like, oh, here's a movie poster. Here's
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me. I actually like this better than a movie
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poster. I mean you run out of wall space you
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do and this again This is metal like I can put
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it on something and you know, I can feel solid
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So thank you AMC slash Marvel for my my asterisk
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Right, um Yeah, have you seen Thunderbolts yet?
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What did you think go ahead and leave a comment
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down in the comment section below and give us
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your thoughts Thank you