Should we go back to cable? - Error Code Show


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So, you know, back in the day, it was pretty
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cool to have a fancy little phone and you can
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install little apps on it. Oh my gosh. And you
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had you had, you know, maybe like four or five
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apps, right? It was so cool. You could download,
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you know, a little game to play. You could download
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YouTube. You watch videos on your on your little
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phone. How nice was that? I don't know about
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you, but I have way too many apps on my phone
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now and they just keep multiplying. And, uh,
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very, in a very similar way. So has the move
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from cable to streaming services back in the
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day. Um, you know, when the, when Netflix went
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online, it was really, really cool to have Netflix.
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Oh, like cancel cable. All you have is Netflix.
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All you need is Netflix. And then came, I don't
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even know who came next, but then you had Hulu.
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So it was like, Oh, Netflix and Hulu. That's
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cool. Then you have Apple TV. Now you have like
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Disney Plus. Now you have Prime Video. You have
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Max Paramount plus Peacock. Dear God. Um, so
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like I was thinking the other day about this
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actually, and I was like, aside from commercials,
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right? Yeah. Why the fuck? Why don't we go back
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to cable TV because in the beginning again in
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the beginning it was actually cheaper. It was
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cheaper to get rid of your $150 cable, you know
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bill every single month and then drop down to
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Netflix for like what like 15 20 bucks a month.
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You know, I don't think it was that much back
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then Yeah, it was like pretty cheap now It's
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like $58 per month if you get everything but
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then if you get like Everything without ads and
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stuff. What is it like a hunt? It's over $100.
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I think 178 98 180 dollars 180 dollars a month
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and I bet cables on sale now because no one has
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cable who the hell has cable anymore so cables
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probably like $20 a month now like what the hell
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so I don't know this is a And I I will say this
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Online streaming services has ruined it It has
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ruined all of you. It's ruined. Me is ruined.
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Octokitty ruined Alex because you no longer have
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the joy of just being forced to watch some random
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movie like Lawnmower Man that you would never
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actually watch. If you had access to 50 ,000
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movies on streaming services, you would not watch
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Lawnmower Man. But if you're flipping around
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the cable channels and it's on, you watch it.
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So you might I actually had that experience with
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my daughter a few months ago, right? Because
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I still have, so I can watch football and stuff
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and certain other things, I have an HD antenna
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in my living room, right? That's attached to
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my TV because by law they have to put the broadcast
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channels over air for free. It's a federal law.
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They're required to do it mostly for the emergency
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broadcast system, right? That's the deal. So
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you can go to Best Buy and buy like a $50 HD
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antenna and it'll get you like 30 channels. Right
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and my daughter was sitting there. She was like,
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what did you guys do before the streaming and
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I was like here? I'll show you I flipped it over
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to that input and I started moving channels Just
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channel up channel up channel up and she was
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like, well, how would you find what you wanted
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to watch? You would just keep hitting channels
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until you found something that was inoffensive
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enough to watch Right when you were home sick,
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it was the price is right Or whatever was on
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daytime television. Um Yeah. So again, you're
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right. I think that there is kind of a balkanization
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there where we watched things that you probably
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discovered more interesting things back then
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because it was easier to discover. I know when
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I flipped through my Netflix, I'm like, I don't
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know if I want to watch this. Right. Like, yeah,
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you have to think about it pretty hard. And there's
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just so much content. And yeah, so. I know some
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of the streaming services are starting a bundle
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program. I know I got in it like in the early
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days So I have Disney Plus Hulu and ESPN Plus
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for $16 because I was like an inaugural member
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like I'd signed up in the first like day Right.
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Well So I get that And cable subscribers are
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way down From 2019, 85 .6 million households
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had traditional pay television cable in 2023.
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That went down to 58 million. That's a huge drop
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inside of four years. Yeah. And it's just going
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down and down and down. I'm kind of with you.
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I wonder when we all go back to cable just because
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it's cheaper. Yeah. And I feel like these like.
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hipster kids these yeah the generation like underneath
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us is going to be like oh look how cool and retro
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cable is I'm like watching ads like I didn't
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I didn't even know ads existed I will say this
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I I miss like old school 90 ads where like they
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made no sense at all but they were just fun most
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most of the time funny and also just a little
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weird like some of them are just burned into
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my memory like the one with the egg and it was
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like this is your brain on drugs oh yeah dang
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yeah there's a there's a great guy on tiktok
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called matt mccarthy he's a standard comedian
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he collects vhs tapes right and he plays them
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on his tiktok like sections of them and one of
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his favorite things is like all these memory
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burned commercials that we had Like the Hershey's
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Christmas one with the Hershey's kisses where
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they're all the little bells. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
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right. I'm looking at Xfinity right now. It's
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actually cheaper than streaming now. Right. If
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you want all of the ad free versions of all your
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streaming services, 180 bucks a month, it looks
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like like Xfinity is starting to base out at
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somewhere around 60. Right. I don't think it's
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going to help them, but It is getting cheaper
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to go back that way. Yeah, I just. I wonder when
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does it when does it become ridiculous? Right.
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Like you and I talked when we first started the
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podcast because you had just canceled your Disney
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Plus and I was like, oh, you got to restart that
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because we got to do reviews of this show. I
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tried it. I tried to do the thing where I would
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like cycle. You know like oh, yeah churn that
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dude netflix next month. I'll do disney plus
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within streaming. They call it churn That's what
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the in industry term is is how fast users churn
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I sign up to watch this show and when that show's
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over I cancel Which is why disney's actually
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gone the way of you'll notice They released daredevil,
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right? Yeah when daredevil is over what starts?
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And or and then and or and they just keep cycling
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shows so they always have a new one popping Yeah,
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right My issue with Netflix is you never know
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what's Netflix is like almost like the Hallmark
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Channel in that there's 800 pounds of crap that
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Netflix produces and then like one really good
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show and you have to sort through them all. And
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also Netflix does not know how to advertise their
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shows. Anything good I see on Netflix, it comes
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from recommendations from people. People being
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like, oh, did you see this on Netflix? It's not
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from Netflix telling me about the show. It's
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from other people telling me about it. You know,
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because Netflix sucks at marketing. Yeah, they
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do. Oh, my God. Yeah, they're terrible about
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it. Disney will at least like market their crap.
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They will. Yeah, sometimes they will shove that
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down your throat like they will come to your
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house, knock on the door and be like, you're
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going to watch this now. Yeah. But yeah, Netflix.
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I don't know, they need to figure out marketing.
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Do you really do? Do you have a what is your
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favorite streaming service? Which which one is
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the best in your opinion? Corn hub. No, I'm just
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kidding. Oh no. Um, I don't. So there, Ooh, there
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are things that like will irk the shit out of
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me with some of the streaming services. So for
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instance, if I have to like scroll pretty far
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down to like hit the continue watching. Oh, I
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hate it. I hate it so much. One thing I really
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hate about Netflix is the lack of trailers. They
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will like push something out. I'm like, what
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is this about? And it will say like, I don't
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know, like five words like Jeff and Alex form
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a podcast. And it's like, oh, OK, well, is this
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what is this? And like no trailer. And I'll just
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cut to like the most random 10 second clip. And
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you're like, what the fuck is this about? I'm
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not going to watch this. I hate that. I think
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Amazon Prime. Has a pretty good setup, but that's
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mainly because you can link so much with it Like
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I go to Amazon Prime and I have like paramount
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Other stuff I can't even think yeah with it.
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So I like that like the central hub thing Disney's
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like really good though. Disney's is like clean
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Peacock sucks. So somebody in the YouTube chat
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just brought this up now I will say it's not
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my favorite but the one that is better than everybody
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thinks it is is Apple TV plus Right and see Apple
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TV plus is like linked with my Amazon Prime.
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Yeah, and it's got some Phenomenal shows Apple
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TV very quietly has been producing some top -tier
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content Shrinking which I can't say enough about
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I love that show Love that show, right? It's
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it's Jason Siegel and Harrison Ford. Just crush
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it in that show on Solo. That's a grumpy old
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therapist and I Love it. Yeah, um It's a great
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show Ted Lasso's on there the morning shows on
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there right for all mankind's on there They're
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just a very quietly or like we don't release
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a lot But what we release is top tier and that's
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all we spend money on I still think for its catalog
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the size and depth of its catalog Disney Plus
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is the best one Yeah, because they just have
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the biggest vault Right and especially now that
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they own all the Fox properties the old 20th
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century Fox properties. They're like, oh we have
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the Simpsons now Right. Would you like to watch
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season 2 Simpsons? We've got that here you go
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You know Honestly the one that I've been closest
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to canceling is Netflix Yeah Yeah, the only reason
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we have peacock is my wife got it at like a New
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Year's sale She got like the whole year on sale
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for like $12 .99 For 12 months. It's the only
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reason I have peacock. I We have like peacock
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because like I I just have verizon and I feel
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like Every time when I get a new phone I get
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like 36 free years of That's the one That's the
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thing a bunch of the phone companies started
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doing a few years ago Where it's like if you're
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with this like when I was on t -mobile, I think
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we got netflix for free Yeah, right and now i'm
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on at &t and I get something else. Um Yeah, somebody
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say Disney pick up Paramount Plus actually has
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some pretty quality content and their movie library
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is really good because Paramount's made some
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really good movies over the years Yeah, right
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We got really far afield on this topic It's good.
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Yeah, somebody the chats kind of with me like
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I thought about dumping Netflix and then they'll
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put out one good thing YouTube chat. What if
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Nickelodeon got into it unlocking God to your
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millennial myth and legend? I piece Nickelodeon
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is already there. They're on Paramount Plus Paramount
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owns the Nickelodeon all of the Nickelodeon content
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is On Paramount Plus. So if you're looking for
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the Nickelodeon content, that's where it lives
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Because they own that the Paramount so Nickelodeon
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forever. Where is there it does someone own like
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G4 and I like look up old G4 I don't know. That's
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a good question. Probably not. It's probably
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a loss to the Internet ether. It's probably written
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versions on YouTube. Yeah. So, yeah, again, Netflix
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is the one I'm closest to doing. Hulu again,
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I get it bundled. Same thing with ESPN. Which
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is nice. Good old Reddit. Anyway. Uh, what do
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you guys think? What is your favorite streaming
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subscription? Should we all just go back to cable
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because streaming has just gotten too bloody
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expensive Let us know what you think down in
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the comments below