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One of our viewers posed the question of whether Disney should reboot the Star Wars franchse...so we discuss...
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So, obviously, Andor just ended and it's getting
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rave reviews and there's been some great things
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lately. Skeleton Clue is really, really good.
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Again, Andor, great. There's been some good stuff
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that comes out of Star Wars. But most Star Wars
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fans would generally agree that the sequel trilogy
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of 7, 8, and 9 are not, shall we say, the best
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thing that has come out of Star Wars in the history
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of Star Wars. The question that has been posed
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right is If they were is there a case to be made
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for Disney to White this great clean say seven
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eight nine are no longer canon and let's start
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over on seven eight nine or Should they just
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accept that look we made this movies are not
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the best but they're canon It is what it is and
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we're just gonna make better stuff going forward.
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So that's the question on the table is Should
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Disney retcon the sequel trilogy and just erase
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it from our collective Star Wars canon Jay, what's
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your immediate gut reaction? Oh my gosh, what
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was this like tonight? You're just like, let's
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see how many people we can make mad. Oh my gosh.
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There we go. So seven, eight, nine. We're specifically
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talking about Ray, right? We're talking about
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the Ray trilogy. Yeah, we'll call it that. If
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they could, should they wipe those from the the
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existence of Star Wars Canon? Oh God, I'm gonna
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say no Okay, I'm gonna say no So this is the
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argument that I've had with this particular viewer
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many times No, they shouldn't Okay now Can we
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say look we're not gonna go back and rewatch
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a rise in a Skywalker a whole bunch of times
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No, we're not. I haven't watched it in years
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because it's trash Force Awakens was pretty good
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last Jedi was what had its very good parts, right?
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Wasn't exactly perfectly executed in the rise
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of Skywalker was trash but but Trying to go back
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and retcon him is not the solution for Star Wars
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as a Genre as a is a is sorry as a franchise
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It just gets too complicated for them, right?
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One, you basically have to wipe in front of existence
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and you don't want to do that, right? Two, you
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confuse the crap out of the general audience,
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right? And I'm not talking about those of us
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deep in the fandom with our cool Star Wars hoodies,
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right? I'm talking about the general audience,
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right? I just don't think that there's a benefit
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for Disney to do so. I think the benefit would
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be to move forward. Go forward in time. No more
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prequels. No more middle of the empire shit.
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Let's, let's... That way. Right? Or worst -case
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scenario do like that old Republic thing They've
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been planning for a long time and go so far back
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in time that the the current timeline doesn't
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matter That's I mean, that's actually what I
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want to see personally Absolutely 100 % I Will
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ask you this question because this has been posted
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now opposed a different way in the chat Do you
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reboot the so and I will use Harry Potter as
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our example, right? So we made the Harry Potter
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movies, right they exist Warner Brothers has
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opted to start over Right. We're rebooting it
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completely We're gonna start it again book one
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as a TV show this time, but we're starting it
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again Total 100 % reboot, recast everything.
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They're doing that right now. Time will tell
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us whether it be successful. Do you think Disney
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should do the same thing with Star Wars? I think
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Harry Potter is different. I think. Like to its
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core, it's very different. And I say that because
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one, you're going from a movie to now a TV series.
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You're not trying to like redo. The movie trying
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to like make them not canon. Also, like the the
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thing about like if you were just going to wipe
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away Ray's storyline, I think you might take
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away like a very powerful role model for little
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girls. I don't really know. I don't have children.
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I do. Out there. But I could imagine like little
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girls are looking up to Ray like, wow, she's
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so cool. And I don't want to take that away from
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anyone. Harry Potter, though. Harry Potter is.
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Different because they are, from my understanding,
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the TV series that they're making, they're trying
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to make it as accurate to the books as possible,
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which the movies cut out a lot. They had to.
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Yeah, there is so much stuff going on. 100%.
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So I feel like this is like two different arguments
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here. Because now you're going back and you're
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making something that's very. True to the books
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and with Star Wars, you don't really have. I
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don't know, you don't really have that. So I
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mean, they do have a ton of books, but. The not
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not they weren't originally a series of books
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that you're adapting off of. This was an original
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series. I'm going to say. If you were going to
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do something like reboot Star Wars, you need
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like a 25 year gap. Right. You would basically
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have to stop making Star Wars content for 25
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years and then start over. Right. I guess the
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only way it would work. Right. And it may not
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even work then. Right. I'm saying I don't think
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you can redo Star Wars without a significant
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gap between we have ended this we have started
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it over right again because you're going to confuse
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the crap out of the general audience right i
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also don't think that you can recapture the magic
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of the original trilogy four five and six right
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those things were about as good as you can get
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right I don't know how you and this is actually
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the the uphill battle that I think the Harry
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Potter series has. And I'll explain when they
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casted the Harry Potter movies, the original
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ones, right? They struck gold with Harry, Ron
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and Hermione. OK, Dan Radcliffe, Rupert Grint,
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Emma Watson, that crew had a chemistry. and a
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style and a way that they work together in those
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films. That is going to be exceedingly difficult
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for Warner Brothers to recreate in the television
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show. And I think if anything is going to kill
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that TV show, it's going to be that it's going
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to be they just can't. You caught lightning in
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a bottle with Dan Radcliffe, Emma Watson and
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Rupert Grint, and you just can't do it again.
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And I think the same concept can be said of Star
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Wars. You got lightning in a bottle with Mark
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Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford. And the
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way that they played those characters through
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those three movies, that I don't think you'll
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get again. I just don't know how you do it. What
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do you think? I think it's possible. But like
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you're going to have to do a lot of work, like
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a lot, a lot of work. And I think I remember
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kind of a documentary about Harry Potter. And
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I believe Daniel Radcliffe was the last person
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to get cast because they were going through everyone
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and they were like, no, no, no, no. I think,
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and I could be really wrong here. Someone fact
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check me, but like, I think they already had
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Ron and Hermione and they had like, they introduced
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them to each other and they're like, okay, like
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they seem to kind of get along. Um, and they
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were just like going through auditions for Daniel
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Radcliffe, looking for the perfect person. I
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think you can do it, but like you, so here's
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the issue. Making. Movies making TV shows is
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a business. So you're going to have a project
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timeline. You're going to have a budget I Really
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think you need to take a step back from all of
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that and be like we are gonna spend as long as
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it takes to find these three children That's
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going to be that like special spark for this
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like new generation. I'm like a little worried
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that no one no studio No director is gonna have
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the patience to do that if that makes sense We're
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going to find out. We will find out. Yeah. Now,
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on the on the television side of it, and we're
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getting a little off topic of the original topic,
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but we'll kind of go with this. HBO is known
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for its television. HBO does not screw up television.
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HBO knows how to make good quality television
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shows. So if there's any network, cable or otherwise,
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which service. that has the best shot at doing
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the Harry Potter casting and has the patience
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and ability and institutional knowledge from
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a production level to do this. It is absolutely
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Warner Brothers and HBO. Right. This is just
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what they do. Hello, Last of Us. Hello, Game
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of Thrones. Hello, Sopranos. Hello. I mean, I
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can go on and on and on and on and on and on.
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Hello, newsroom. You know, I mean. They just
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this is what HBO does Separate actually what
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we'll hit that the quick hits here in a minute
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because they did something this week. That was
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really silly You know I Here's where I would
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go with Star Wars if I was gonna do it Right.
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I'm Kathleen Kennedy Right or I take over for
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Kathleen Kennedy tomorrow. Somebody did this
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where they took that obi -wan show right and
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they cut it into a movie it was about two and
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a half hours but they literally were like if
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i take this and cut it into a film and it was
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good it was on youtube for a minute before it
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got dmca'd but everybody who saw it was like
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this this is really good i think there's a good
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two and a half hour movie in that six hour tv
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show i think in a lot of the stuff in the prequel
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trilogy I went took my daughter to see episode
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three the other week. It's not good. It's got
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good moments. But it's not good. We talked about
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this at the Mariners game. Yeah. And I brought
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up. So I also saw it in theaters a couple of
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weeks ago as well. And I was like, you know what?
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This is the first time where I actually remember
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saying this. Yeah. The acting is not that great.
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I think like as a kid, I was so caught up in
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like the lightsaber battles and everything like
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that. And then like I held on to that for so
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long. But then like going back as an adult, you're
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kind of, you kind of look at it and you're like,
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Ooh, there's, there's really great moments. But
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in episode three, I was like, overall, like the
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acting's not that great. I think that in the
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prequel trilogy, there's like a Fellowship of
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the Rings extended edition for our version. Right.
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That combines elements of episodes one, two and
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three. That is awesome. Right. And maybe if I'm
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the head of Lucasfilm, I make a definitive cut
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of all these different projects to cut out all
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the crap. Right. Maybe that's the solution. I
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don't know. I really don't. But no, I stand by
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fully retconning and rebooting Star Wars. Is
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not a good idea. It's just. It's just not. It
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doesn't make sense. Also, if you're comparing
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Star Wars to Harry Potter, the creator of Star
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Wars. He did have that scandal. It's a very small,
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tiny scandal, but nothing as big as Harry Potter
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creator scandal. No. And the scandal I'm talking
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about for Star Wars is just Jar Jar Binks. Darth
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Jar Jar. Jar Jar Jar. Yeah, we need to get in
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there and get us some Darth Jar Jar. Yeah. So,
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that's our thoughts on that. Tell us what you
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think, right? Down in the comments below.