Aug. 29, 2025

No Spoilers, but how GOOD was Fantastic Four: First Steps!

No Spoilers, but how GOOD was Fantastic Four: First Steps!
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No Spoilers, but how GOOD was Fantastic Four: First Steps!

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ay and Alex share their initial reactions after attending an early screening of Fantastic Four: First Steps, the latest from Marvel Studios. They received special keychains and dive into their thoughts on the new MCU movie, offering a spoiler-free glimpse into what to expect. Check it out for some early Marvel Cinematic Universe buzz!

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Hello everyone so Jay and I just got back from

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a lovely Thursday night screening of Fantastic

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four first steps the newest MCU thingy and we

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got much like we did with the Thunderbolts Early

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screening. We got these cool key chains Okay,

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let's kind of go bottom Bottom line up front,

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Jay, what did you think of this film Superman?

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You called the best comic book movie since Endgame.

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Did Fantastic Four beat it? No. No, but. But

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it is the best Fantastic Four movie period. Now,

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that's not a very high bar to clear in the history

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of Fantastic Four Phelps. Where do you rate this?

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Like, like if you go into MCU, like A tier, B

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tier, C tier, D tier after like, where do you

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put this in the in the grand scheme of MCU films?

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I would say like. Hmm. I would say this is like

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a solid B. Like a solid B level like like not

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not bad. It's good. And by the way, y 'all got

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to get off this like if it's not perfect, it's

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it's bad. No, it's a it's a good movie. It is

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a good movie. Let's kind of run through it here.

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Obviously, we know we got this kind of retro

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futuristic vibe to the whole thing. We did see

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it in IMAX, which I'm glad we did. Visually,

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I thought it was stunning. It looked good. Start

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to finish. And honestly, the one I was worried

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about was Reed's powers, right? Like, because

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it's hard to do Reed's powers well and make them

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not look completely ridiculous. But I think they

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did a pretty good job of that. Yeah. Everything

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looked great. This looked how a Marvel movie

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should look. The effects were great. I didn't

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have any problems with like any of the superpowers.

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Everything looked. On par, like everything looked

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great. Casting. Pretty solid. Yeah, very solid.

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Good chemistry. That's the thing that I think

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I bought the most of. Right. Like Sue seemed

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like Johnny's older sister. Yes, 100 percent.

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Right. There was a little bit of love. a little

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bit of frustration, right? You know, and Johnny

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being the little brother. And I actually want

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to stick on Johnny because we talked about this

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a little bit as we left the theater. Hang on,

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I'm blurring out here. This is the best version

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of Johnny I've ever seen. I loved this Johnny.

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I thought he I thought Paul Quinn did such a

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great job as this Johnny. I 100 % agree. No,

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no issues there. I think he was perfect. Obviously,

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he's funny. And then yeah, he has that like little

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brother thing going on. And I'm sorry, it's Joseph

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Quinn. And so here's the thing that I want to

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say about this without getting into spoilers.

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And we are going to do a spoiler video. So if

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you've already seen it, or if you don't care

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about spoilers, go ahead and go back and watch

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our spoiler reaction, which will be a lot more

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in depth and we'll go into full spoilers about

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the thing. But I do want to say this. There's

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this tendency with Johnny and this is what I

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liked about this movie that they didn't do this

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There's this tendency with Johnny to make him

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very one note, right? Johnny's the goofy hot

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shot guy But Johnny actually has a very important

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role in the story That has nothing to do with

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his ability to turn into fire Right he does something

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that critically turns the story in a really important

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way. And I was surprised that they did that,

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right? Because again, the temptation is to make

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Johnny very one note. And I really want to say

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what it is, but again, I'm not going to go into

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spoilers here. Again, you guys come watch our

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spoiler video for that. But I think Joseph Quinn

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just crushed it. Eben Mosbacherak as the thing.

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He emoted so well. Yeah. I just like I bought

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it. I bought him as the thing. Yep. And again,

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he wasn't one note either. I think maybe maybe

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that's the thing I noticed the most about the

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characters is previous Fantastic Four's all the

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characters felt very one note. Reed is really

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smart. Sue is this Johnny's a hot shot goofball.

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You know, Ben's a clobbering guy. Right. Like.

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I didn't get that sense from any of these characters.

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No, there was definitely some pretty good depth

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with all of them. They all have, I would say,

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like their. Character flaw that they're trying

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to like kind of overcome during the movie. They're

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trying to like prove themselves in a very specific

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way or trying to overcome their I don't know

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fame if you will Yeah, I I really like there

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was a lot there was a lot of depth to This fantastic

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for which the other two. I mean, I I fell asleep

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the the last one I fell asleep during fan for

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stick. Yeah The only casting and I told you this

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on my way out. I don't think it's bad But if

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there was a weak link in the chain, I really

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do think it's Pedro Pascal I I don't know. I

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don't I Don't think so. I I really enjoyed him.

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I liked him. I just Maybe I'm just a little Pedro

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Pascal and I love Pedro Pascal Okay, and I appreciate

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Latino guys who grow patchy beards. Thank you

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Pedro like it it helps all of us okay but he

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was the one i maybe i'll have to watch it again

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and maybe on a second watch through i'll feel

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differently but he to me was uh the the way it's

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like um galactus looked amazing yeah galactus

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i god that um Yeah, very comic booky, but not.

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Didn't look ridiculous. Yeah, he did. He looked

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like he belonged in this reality. Yeah, it was

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sick. I liked it. He has. It's amazing. Yeah.

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I want to go back to the glass. Ralph Anderson

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is Galactus. He even had the goofy helmet. Which

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under normal circumstances, you'd be like, why

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do you wear that stupid hat? But you know what?

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It almost makes sense in this movie. Like it

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didn't pull me out of the movie at all. Yeah.

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Julia Garner, as our silver surfer, shall a ball.

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Right. She did a really great job. Yep. Right.

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Yeah, I'm really trying to think of anybody that

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I didn't love in this that I didn't like. And

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again. Reed is probably the closest. I loved

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Herbie. The little robot is great. He's awesome.

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Right. You know. Yes, there's just there's so

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much to say that was just, again, really well

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done. Also didn't resolve the way that I that

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that I thought it was going to. But again, you

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don't. You don't feel like they won too easily,

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nor do you feel like it was too hard? Like they

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balanced it really well. Yeah. The stakes made

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sense. It did. And I don't think I can say anything

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else without spoiling, so like, um. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean. It was it was a it was a tough fight.

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Yeah. Yeah. But again, it all made sense. There

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was nothing there where I was like, what? How

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did that happen? Right. Right. There was nothing

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in the fight where I was like, really? Right.

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And again, you felt that menace from Galactus,

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you felt that menace from the surfer. I think

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she was used really well in the parts where they

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used her. um it's kind of like the the tier two

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antagonist here uh which again we've all seen

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the thing on tiktok all right i herald is beginning

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i herald your end um don't worry i know a lot

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of people i was talking to were worried that

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they were getting too spoiled by all the clips

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and shit that disney's been releasing on this

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most of that's in the first 20 minutes of the

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movie Right, there's a whole middle section there

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and and like but the middle section which visually

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again if you've read the Jack Kirby comics it

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feels so Like again, there's a whole middle section

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that just looks amazing. We saw it in IMAX I'm

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glad we saw it in IMAX because there's some cool

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visuals Trying to think what else we could say

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without spoiling too much I really don't know.

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It's it's so hard. So, yeah, Jay, overall, let's

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let's run this down again really quick. Is this

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a you should see this in theaters or wait for

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streaming? 100 % should see in theaters. The

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only thing that really upset me, you they were

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already sold out of the Galactus head buckets.

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So if you want one, they're gone. They're already

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gone. Now, I'm going to say this. We saw this

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early screening at AMC. We got our cool keychain

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like we did for Thunderbolts for our early screening.

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And unlike the real where we had to see Superman,

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we got to do our own butter on our popcorn and

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their popcorn popcorns. Just better. I'm sorry.

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Sorry, Regal. You're not going to let that go.

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Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. But yes, they were sold

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out. They did have the Herbie drink holders.

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And I almost want to put there. They're a little

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pricey. I think those things don't just a smidge.

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Yeah. It's it was a little expensive drink holder.

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Eighty two. Holy crap for Herbie. It was 80.

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Yeah. So, again, I didn't do it. Anyway, folks,

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are you planning on seeing Fantastic Four? Are

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you excited about this movie? We really like

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it. I think it's it's I think it's actually almost

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fair to say the MCU is back now. You know, three

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of the last four movies they've released between

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Deadpool and Wolverine Thunderbolts and Fantastic

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Four are great. Captain America is really kind

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of the only misstep movie wise I've seen in the

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last couple of years. So I think it's fair to

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say the MCU is back. Yeah. You know, I think

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we can start putting some faith back in the MCU

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again. Let us know what you think down in those

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comments below. And if you want, come back for

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our lovely spoiler talk.