New Superman Spoiler Review: This Movie Changes EVERYTHING for DC


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SPOILER WARNING! We’re going deep into the new Superman movie — no holds barred. This is our full, honest breakdown of DC’s biggest reboot in years: What actually works — and what completely faceplants The biggest surprises, cameos, and fan-service moments (some hit, some seriously don’t) Our thoughts on Clark, Lois, Lex, and where this version of Superman lands emotionally Directorial choices, big swings, weird pacing, and the bold (maybe too bold?) third act What this sets up for the future of the DCU — and whether we're actually excited for it DC took a shot. Was it truth, justice, and the cinematic way… or another Kryptonian misfire?
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Alright everybody, we're back. If you are looking
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for our spoiler free review, go click the little
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things, go back to our page. There is a spoiler
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free review. This is not that. This is not that.
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This is gonna be our spoiler talk. So if you've
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already seen the movie and you or you don't care
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about spoilers Go ahead and stick around here
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because what I'm gonna do now, please look right
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below me and Jay There's the spoiler tag. I have
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put in the spoiler alert. It is right there We're
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going into spoilers for the 2025 Superman So
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again, if you want our spoiler free review, go
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back to the channel. It's there. There is a spoiler
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free review. If you want to have the spoiler
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talk and have some conversations about this movie,
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stick around. Leave some comments down below.
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Jay, we reviewed it. We both love the movie.
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Let's get into the spoilers. And I think one
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of the funniest ones up front is why crypto is
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such an asshole. There's a great shot Millie
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Alcock and Supergirl comes in and she is not
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like buttoned up by sweet Supergirl She's like
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have party girl. Whoo At the end and she comes
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in and cryptos like yeah and And Superman looks
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at the robot at four and he's like this is why
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that dog is so fucked up Yeah And I I loved it
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I love it I love she straight up was like, thanks
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for watching him, bitch. Like, holy shit. I was
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like, that was probably one of my favorite lines
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of the entire movie was that she was like, thanks
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for watching a bitch. Definitely. I died. Definitely
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one of my favorite lines. I also loved the I'm
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not Superman line. Yeah. Just before hot girl
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just fucking dropped his ass. Oh, yeah So let's
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let's go back kind of to the beginning They set
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this up like it's it's in it's in words right
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at the front Look meta humans have been around
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for a long time This shit's been going on forever
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Superman's been around for three years. Here's
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the timeline, right? So you they make you understand
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up front This is not, oh, we're just learning
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about superheroes, right? Which I think is good.
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I'm glad they've done that. Yeah. Yep. 100 %
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like this is the world is accustomed to metahumans.
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It's nothing new. It's kind of a typical Friday.
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Yeah, we don't we don't like fucking waste time
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it just jumps in He gets his ass kicked. He heels
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up real quick goes and get his ass kicked again
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like Yeah Yeah, we jump straight in right okay,
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he's already he went to Boravia once he messed
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it dude up he came back now this the hammer of
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Arabia's here and We're doing some stuff and
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we we very quickly learn that it's all being
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controlled by Lex. Lex is setting this whole
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thing up. They don't they don't hide that from
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the jump, right? Like Superman, the other characters
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are digging through it as they go. He who we
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as the audience, we're not they're not hiding
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shit from us. Lex is behind the whole thing.
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So, again, this was the part, the kind of the
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setup. The getting to the point where Lex breaks
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into the Fortress of Solitude, where he gets
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the stuff with Superman's parents, the rest of
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the message, which, you know, so the whole setup
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of this is that Superman's only seen the first
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half of the message his parents sent, and they
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were like, go there, do things for humanity,
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you're more powerful, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, but he doesn't know what the end of the
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message says. And then Lex breaks into the fortress
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of solitude with the engineer. They capture crypto
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and we're going to come back to that because
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boy. Right. I really didn't think he was going
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to John Wick Luther through the out of the building.
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Oh, my God. I. Because I told you before we kind
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of like went to the movie. I was like, yeah,
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like it would be kind of really interesting if
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he did do something bad to the dog and you just
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he Superman just come unglued and just freaking
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laser beam half their freaking planet and like
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I kind of felt like we almost got that. We almost
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got there like it was close. Because that was
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like the shit my my family sent me to this planet
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to actually rule over them fuck everyone hates
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me That's the thing they set up is Luther steals
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the second half of the message and places like
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see and It's it's Jor -el played by Bradley Cooper.
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Although he doesn't really speak anything in
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English, but it is interesting. It's Bradley
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Cooper as Jor -el Because James Gunn likes using
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the same actors for multiple things Right. Yeah,
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which is fine. The girl who played Mantis was
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one of the robots. The guy who played what's
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from Guardians with the. Mohawk, the. Oh, Michael
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Rooker. He plays one of the robots. Right. So,
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you know, we're having a nice little Guardians
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reunion in Superman. But yeah, the whole setup
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is, oh, no, Surinam's parents actually sent him
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here to rule Earth. Right. to spread his seed.
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Wink, wink. Right. And like they're straight
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up. And I was like, did he fake it? And then
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like through the whole movie, they almost worked
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to convince you like, no, no, they weren't faking
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it. Like that's what Superman's parents. So I'm
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like, oh, so we got fucked up, Jarrell, in this
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universe. Yeah, I I was like, did this shit happen
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in the comics? Because I have never heard fucking
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this story at one. I was like, holy shit, this
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is dark. I'm which to kind of give you an idea
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of how kind of dark it is. I mean, you do have
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a hot girl dropping and killing someone. But
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then you also have Lex. I was not expecting this
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Lex straight up and went in front of Superman
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when he couldn't do shit about it. And I was
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like. That was the part where I was like, oh,
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we're actually making Lex evil, evil. Yeah, this
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isn't this isn't. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh,
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my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh,
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my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh,
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my god. See, yeah that set up getting to that
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point again kind of was the part that dragged
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for me once we got past that We get metamorphose
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It was now. All right, they set up earlier in
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the movie the kryptonites gone. There's no kryptonite
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left on earth, right? Yeah But metamorphose can
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turn himself into kryptonite, which is what F
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sub Superman He is captured what he turns himself
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in because of all the stuff that happens Right.
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Because the last part of the message and all
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that stuff. Well, he kind of he kind of turned
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himself in to find to find the dog because he
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was like, yeah, hopefully, like they'll take
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me where like they're holding the dog. Yeah.
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And they do. They do. The other sequence that
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dragged a little bit that I think they probably
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could have cut 30 to 45 seconds off of. Was in
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the river in the weird like proton river where
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everybody's getting disintegrated Right. I was
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holding the baby up. I'm like, yeah, we get it.
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He's holding the baby up. He's fighting the guys
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like That one took a little longer than I think
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we needed Yeah that sequence Still good sequence
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and it gets metamorpho on side. Okay now metamorphose
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our buddy Yeah, right because I saved this kid
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Yep, right and and that's the other thing in
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this movie. One of the things is but being evil
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It's when Lex shoots the guy in front of Metamorpho
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Metamorpho is afraid of Lex. He's only hurting
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Superman because Lex has his kid, right? I'm
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sure it was like I'll get your kid and Metamorphos
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like nope Lex is too powerful. I can't do it.
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And then Lex he watches Lex murk the falafel
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vendor Right and that's what metamorphose like
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okay like I can't I I think that's like a very
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like real response that I think a lot of people
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would have because like think about it if Lex
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is going to straight -up murder someone that
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Just gave Superman a falafel one day. Yep. Like
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there's no safety like there Because he's he's
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holding his son hostage, like, hey, like you,
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you have kryptonite on Superman. Basically, I'm
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not going to hurt your kid. All of that shit
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goes out the window. When you see like Lex Luthor,
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just kill a random fucking guy in front of you.
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It's like, dude, none of us are safe. Like, yeah,
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we like what's going to stop them from just killing
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everyone and killing my son. Right. So why am
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I bothering? Yep. So I thought that was a really
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good solid turn for Metamorpho. Again, I loved
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Nathan Fillion in this movie. He's in so much
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more of it and his fighting is so funny In fact,
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there's a great sequence and you see part of
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it in one of the the TV spots where in the background
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you see Superman and there's a big thing floating
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in the background and he's just got to sit there
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and Lois comes in and she's like shouldn't you
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help them with that thing? And he's like, nah,
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it's just a dimensional imp. It's fine They've
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got it and you can see green lantern shit hitting
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at the background like he's creating giant baseball
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bats and hammers It's it's so funny to me because
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like I got a sense like they were struggling
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to handle this and Superman so I know they're
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fine. Why? It's fine. It's nothing Yeah, you
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just see them having this like crazy fight sequence
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in the background but Love that love that sequence.
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I love me the feeling of this, you know And we
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get our we get our first look at the Hall of
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Justice, but they're not the Justice League yet.
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They're the Justice Gang. We're not called the
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Justice Gang. We're the Justice Gang. Like. I
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like how they're struggling to figure out their
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name right now. I'm like and Lois is like, I
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thought Superman was a member. He's like, no,
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he's too nice. Yeah, he won't let us kill people.
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Which is a conflict early in the movie when they're
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fighting the kaiju Because Green Lantern the
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hot girl of Mr. Terrific like fuck it just killed
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a giant kaiju and sir man's like no We don't
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kill things. I was trying to find a way to capture
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it. They kill it He's like mad at them about
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it Yeah, but that actually sets up nicely with
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the hot girl thing later because again those
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three established like look We're not above killing
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shit if we have to and so when they have the
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fight at the end in Boravia and Hot girls carrying
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the evil president of Arabia who's with looks
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I loved it. He was like you want to kill me your
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like Superman. She's just like yeet She's like
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watch this bitch. Hi Oh, God. That was a good
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moment. Great moment. I loved it. Yeah. Oh, God.
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So it's like every every part of the movie was
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like amazing to me. I loved the part with his,
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I don't know, foster parents and where his dad
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is like, it's not. the plays of your parents
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to tell you who you are. We're supposed to just
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provide you tools to for you to figure out who
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you are. Basically, I was like, damn, that's
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such a good line. This goes to the thing that
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you and I talked about right out of the theater.
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And I think it's the most important piece. If
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you look at gun stuff within this genre, go back
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to Guardians, the entire Guardians trilogy, including
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and plus the holiday special is all about family.
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Right. The first movie is about found family.
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The second movie is about how that found family
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is more important than your biological family,
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his battle with ego and everything else. And
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the third movie is about Rocket and family and
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the families that Rocket's been through, the
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one that was taken from him. And James Gunn is
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so good at having family as an underpinning of
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so much of what he does. And even though the
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so first off, I'm glad Mod Pod Kent aren't dead.
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Right. We don't need pocket to be dead again.
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Thank you. Oh, also side note. These are the
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most realistic looking Kansas farmers I've ever
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seen in a Superman movie. I'm sorry. Kevin Costner
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is not look like what most Kansas farmers look
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like. OK, let's just be real here. These two
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looked like Kansas farmers who were at home watching
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Fox News. Yeah, I love the mothers. like screaming
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into the phone on like the table. I was like,
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dear golly, this is so this is so accurate. Yeah.
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Yeah. You really got the sense of. Like this
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is, I don't know, real. And I love the part where
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Mr. Terrific was like, you brought the fucking
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dog and he's like, yeah, I didn't want him to
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eat my my parents' house. And I'm like, oh, my
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God. And again, the underpinning of family starts
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at the beginning where when he's getting healed,
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they're playing the message from Jarell and Superman's
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mom and the robots are like, he finds it comforting.
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And then at the end of the film, after we found
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out all the fucked up shit that Jarell said,
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now the robot say it again and you're like, wait,
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well, he's going to watch Jarell again. And then
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it's actually Ma and Pa Kent and home videos
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of that. So the family underpinning just runs
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this whole This whole line in the movie and James
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Gunn always weaves that shit in so well Yeah,
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it's not cheesy at all No, it's good. No he he
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does it right, you know cuz it's not like fast
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and furious family But it really is family is
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an underpinning of this film and it's it's so
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well done I think what else one time mr. Terrific
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has a substantial role in the film and he's he's
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kind of the MVP to Yeah, fuck and I love the
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fact that he was like, oh I'm I'm only helping
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out to piss off the Green Lantern The other part
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that I like is, oh, there was the line where
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Lois is like, you put nanites in Superman's blood.
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Do you do that to all your friends? He's like,
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yeah. Yeah. Everyone just like looks at themselves
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like girls like, wait, what? Oh, my God. And
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I do also love the scene with him and Lois where
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he's like, he tells Lois, like, I don't do that
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emotional shit. And Lois is like, Oh, yeah, I
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know. I'm just like thinking out loud of like
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how, you know, I just wanted to tell them that
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I loved him. But, you know, I was thinking about
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breaking up with him and all. And he's just like.
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What did I just say? Just looks at her. I was
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like, Oh, my God. Oh, God. It was amazing. Oh,
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yeah, it was great. Again, Nathan Philly does
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some great stuff with his lantern powers, including
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a sequence where he's flipping the bird, the
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lantern bird. Oh, I was dying. All right. Again,
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kind of going back to the end, we talked about
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it a little earlier. We know the next movie coming
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out is Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, right? And
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I think we got a sense of the type of Supergirl
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we got. I am so excited. Holy crap. I'm excited
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for that. She's a hot mess. She was in there
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for all the two minutes and I'm like, oh, I need
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to see this movie. Yeah. Yeah. And she's going
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to be fighting Jason Momoa as Lobo is the primary
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antagonist in her film. So. That shit's going
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to get crazy. Oh. Yeah. I'm looking forward to
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it. I'm excited. I am excited. I'm excited for
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the DC like universe. I'm excited for the more
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excited for it now than with our soft launches.
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All right. So let's do this. I'm just going to
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make a quick note here for our our thing. What
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so what does this tell you about where they're
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going with the DCU? Um, this is a very full world
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full of heroes. Yeah. So to me, I think we're
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going to see a March very much how Marvel did
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with end game. You're going to have these movies
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that are going to string together. I don't think
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we're going to get a full Justice League until
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you kind of assemble. all of your members and
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then they're all going to come together for like
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this epic fight. You can't do it for a little
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bit. Yeah. Because this is the other one we talked
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about on our way out of the theater. Batman.
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And by the way, for anybody that's like he'll
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just connect to Matt Reeves. No, that Batman
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does not fit in this world. OK, that Batman is
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great. And I love the Batman. And I'm looking
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forward to the Batman, too. And I think the Penguin
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is great. Yeah. But I have a cat right in front
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of my thing here. Oh, God. Oh, nice. Who they
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cast as Batman and how Batman interacts with
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Superman is critical. Yep. And I agree, I. Do
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you think they've already got it? Do you think
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they know who it is? Comic cons coming up and
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DC is gonna be there I Feel like they do um Do
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you think we get a Batman announcement at Comic
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Con? Oh, I don't know Since we have like the
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Batman 2 coming out. Um It wouldn't surprise
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me Yeah So the Batman we're getting is Batman
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the brave and the bold so that what's interesting
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too about this is that Batman This is gonna be
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an older Batman And I think this is gonna be
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a Batman. Who's two or three Robins in right?
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Oh, I think Dick Grayson's already a night wing
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at this point. I would be willing to bet Jason
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Todd is dead air quotes, right and and I think
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this is gonna have a lot to do with Damien Wayne
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Hmm, right So That's what I think we're gonna
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see with this Batman and again, it's gonna be
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an older Batman as some curious How it's gonna
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play off with corn sweat who's still a fairly
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young Superman. He's a superman for three years.
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You figure he's probably what late 20s early
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30s, maybe Yeah, um cuz they're very clear he's
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only been Superman for three years Yep Yeah,
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I want to say for some weird reason With the
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timeline, I don't remember exactly how it worked
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out but I I remember in the movie being like,
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okay, so Superman's 27 I'm Not sure if that's
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accurate or not but it could be because again
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they say he's been Superman for three years because
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at the beginning they do the Meta humans have
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been here for 300 years bringing about the age
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of the gods and monsters Third no, they said
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30 years ago. He crashed on earth Yeah, and it's
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27 years since he crashed from the time he crashed
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the time he comes to me because they go 30 years
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ago He crashed on earth three years ago. He became
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Superman and now there's today So yeah, so he's
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30 So he's still fairly young And again, I think
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we're gonna get an older Batman And I think that
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works really, really well because I think Batman
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is going to be very an older Batman's going to
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be like, no, you don't understand how the world
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works because Superman, like he wants to trust
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everyone. He sees the good in everyone. And then
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you're going to have a very old Batman who's
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lost a couple of Robbins seen some shit. Yeah.
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And he'd be like, no, you don't fucking understand.
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This is how the world works. This is how we have
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to do things and Superman is gonna be You know
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a hundred percent like no like that's not how
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it has to be Bruce and he's gonna be like shut
00:23:08.660 --> 00:23:12.240
the fuck up Stop using my name. Um But yeah,
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.180
like I think that works really really well with
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like the Batman Superman dynamic having a younger
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Superman and an older Batman And again Right
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now, they're saying that this next one. Yeah,
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it'll be Damien Wayne is the Robin. OK, this
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is Robin number three or four. And this is his
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son who was raised by the assassins. Bruce's
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son. Yeah, this is an older Bruce that we're
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going to get. Yeah. I'm looking forward to Supergirl
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now. And actually, you mentioned this as we were
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coming out of the theater, too. We loved Nathan
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fill in a screen lantern, but our next big project
00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:58.599
is actually lanterns For the DCU So we're gonna
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get we're gonna get a bunch of lanterns Which
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I'm excited for I I love that shit. I am I They
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finally did the Green Lantern justice to me in
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this movie because I mean Ryan Reynolds it was
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just I do I need to I need a comment on that.
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By the way, the bowl cut actually works the whole
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movie. Like I forgot about the bowl cut, except
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:25.000
when people would bring it up. It actually fits
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:27.460
his face. And the only time I remembered it later
00:24:27.460 --> 00:24:30.019
was when Lois the hot girl was like, that haircut
00:24:30.019 --> 00:24:34.960
should be gets your vows. Oh, my God. So that
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scene. I love that scene because they were like
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Lois Lane was trying to get their get their help
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to save Superman. And the green lanterns like
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I can't get into politics. I took a valid against
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my vows and then hot girls like, no, he says
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that like every single time he just doesn't want
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to do anything. And I was like, oh, that's that's
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hilarious. I love Nathan Fillion is slated to
00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:05.789
be at least appear in the lantern show, but he's
00:25:05.789 --> 00:25:07.930
not the main character. So Kyle Chandler and
00:25:07.930 --> 00:25:10.309
Aaron Pierre are playing the Hal Jordan and John
00:25:10.309 --> 00:25:13.759
Stewart lanterns, respectively. Well, Nathan,
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so we know on Earth there are at least three
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lanterns. Right. The other one I'm really curious
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.000
about is the flash. Like, that's where I want
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.119
to see what they do. I love the flash as a character.
00:25:28.819 --> 00:25:34.619
Oh, God, I oh, God, you. Oh, I read growing up,
00:25:34.619 --> 00:25:36.779
I read more flash comic books than any other
00:25:36.779 --> 00:25:41.859
comic. I am you can do so much with the flash.
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:47.420
I would say the casting doesn't have to be perfect
00:25:47.420 --> 00:25:53.119
for the Flash. Sorry, everyone. But yes, how
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.079
they're going to tie the Flash into this future
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.859
Justice League is going to be very interesting.
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.779
Let's see. It is July 8th, 2025 as we record
00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:10.130
this spoiler talk for Superman. I'm thinking
00:26:10.130 --> 00:26:12.769
Justice League is probably twenty twenty -nine
00:26:12.769 --> 00:26:24.549
or twenty thirty. I would say twenty. Yeah, I
00:26:24.549 --> 00:26:27.950
would say probably. Twenty -nine. Yeah. They
00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:29.609
better get moving though because they again,
00:26:29.869 --> 00:26:32.069
so for setup, you've got Superman and Supergirl,
00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:34.250
right? Those are already in the can. They're
00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:37.500
done. We're good. We still don't have a Batman.
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.359
We still don't have a Wonder Woman. We still
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.339
don't have a flash. I don't think you need an
00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:45.619
Aquaman because I don't think Aquaman is a critical
00:26:45.619 --> 00:26:48.859
character for the Justice League per se. You've
00:26:48.859 --> 00:26:51.279
got three green lanterns. You've got a hot girl.
00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:53.599
You've got Mr. Terrific. You you're building
00:26:53.599 --> 00:27:00.859
a solid roster already. Yeah, like that's it.
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:07.720
That's oh, that is impressive. Who who do you
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:13.279
think the villain is going to be in I Don't know
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.640
Lex Luthor and the Joker teaming up. Hey, I'm
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.059
gonna See, yeah, I mean they're building a good
00:27:19.059 --> 00:27:21.339
roster for the Justice League. I see where they're
00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:24.359
going I don't know who the villains gonna be
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:29.539
I Mean I think Lex is gonna be the one to put
00:27:29.539 --> 00:27:33.609
them in play kind of like how Loki Was put in
00:27:33.609 --> 00:27:36.329
play by Thanos and that was all a big misdirect.
00:27:36.970 --> 00:27:38.690
I think that'll be part of it If somebody's gonna
00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:40.910
go to Lex and be like I can help you defeat them,
00:27:40.910 --> 00:27:48.970
you know That's tough yeah, that's real tough
00:27:48.970 --> 00:27:55.289
We need a Batman it's gonna be it's gonna be
00:27:55.289 --> 00:28:01.980
critical Because how him and Superman interact
00:28:01.980 --> 00:28:05.420
is gonna be important and I think that's where
00:28:05.420 --> 00:28:10.579
Snyder went wrong Because we're immediately we
00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:14.220
started the Snyder verse with Batman v Superman
00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:18.079
Really right we had man of steel Batman v Superman.
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.799
I'm like, wait a minute We're already in antagonistic
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:28.539
mode With Batman and Superman like no Like that's
00:28:28.539 --> 00:28:35.680
not what I want Yeah, yeah, that's true so Any
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.740
other predictions we're gonna get another Superman
00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:40.579
I think we'll get Superman 2 before we get Justice
00:28:40.579 --> 00:28:53.299
League Yeah, probably I I do think They'll probably
00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.900
milk Superman like the Superman universe for
00:28:56.900 --> 00:28:59.769
everything that That they can like because I
00:28:59.769 --> 00:29:02.049
mean this movie is it's going to be huge. This
00:29:02.049 --> 00:29:05.650
is a huge hit movie I think they knocked it out
00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:08.990
of the park They're going to follow it up. They're
00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:12.349
going to continue that momentum with supergirl
00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:18.150
So for me They it doesn't make sense for them
00:29:18.150 --> 00:29:23.549
not to do another superman movie Especially if
00:29:23.549 --> 00:29:27.410
supergirl does really well So yeah, I think we
00:29:27.410 --> 00:29:30.190
will get a Superman too. So well, yeah, I mean
00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:33.029
the same before Justice League Yeah, before right
00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:37.069
now the latest box office projections have Superman
00:29:37.069 --> 00:29:41.529
at a very reasonable 120 to 130 million domestically
00:29:41.529 --> 00:29:46.150
for the opening weekend Do you think that's soft
00:29:46.150 --> 00:29:48.630
or do you think that that it's gonna hit like
00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:50.450
you think that's that's probably about right?
00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:58.720
Whoo, I'm gonna say soft. I'm gonna say soft
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:03.500
because Schools out for all the kids. It's summer
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:06.299
summer break and this is a four quadrant That's
00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:07.980
the other difference between this and the Snyder
00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:10.759
verse you can take kids to this movie and they're
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.660
gonna like it They're not gonna like Batman v
00:30:13.660 --> 00:30:20.220
Superman Right. Yeah, that was not for kids Very
00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:24.279
true and um, yeah, this is very kid friendly
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:28.240
just Ba ba ba ba ba ba. I mean, if you have my
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:33.900
kid. I mean, yeah. But no, I think I think it's
00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:39.019
like a whole family fun. Yeah, kids are going
00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:42.599
to enjoy it. Now, the studio, they're playing
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.579
smart. The studio Warner Brothers is being like
00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:48.940
100 to 110. Some of the projection companies
00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:51.420
that do this for the industry, like now it's
00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:53.680
going to hit 140. I think Warner Brothers is
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.359
like 100, 110 because they feel safe there. Yeah.
00:31:04.099 --> 00:31:09.900
Yeah. Its budget was 225 million, so it's got
00:31:09.900 --> 00:31:15.759
to do close to five fifty six hundred to break
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:20.920
even. It's marketing and they marketed the shit
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.579
out of this movie. Oh God, yes. I think I mentioned
00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:28.299
it during the podcast like when we were flying
00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:35.140
to and from Michigan You for everything you wanted
00:31:35.140 --> 00:31:37.359
to watch a movie you have to watch Superman trailer
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.940
You want to connect to the internet? You have
00:31:38.940 --> 00:31:41.700
to watch Superman trailer the little icon like
00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:44.200
at the bottom of the screen That's like oh like
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.720
Seattle and then like Michigan and like it kind
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.759
of shows your progression Was the superman logo
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.359
they they suit like i'm surprised. I maybe they
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.160
do i'm surprised. We don't have a fucking starbucks
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:01.940
superman drink Yeah, me too um Trying to think
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if there's any other spoilery stuff we want to
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talk about uh, but I think we hit it all I mean,
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yeah, I think yeah, I think we um I think we
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covered everything well folks leave us down in
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the comments below. Let us know What did you
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think of Superman? Is there anything that you
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saw in the movie that kind of hints to the future
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of the DC universe? Things that you're looking
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forward to in the new DC universe Let us know
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and thanks for joining us