At the HRC Dinner, Jay Made It Official
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This week on Error Code Show, Jay attended the Human Rights Campaign dinner, held fittingly on National Coming Out Day, and officially came out as trans. We talk about what that night was like: the incredible energy in the room, the powerful speakers, the okay-but-not-great food, and the emotional weight of finally stepping into a new chapter. It’s one of those episodes where politics, culture, and personal identity collide — and we’re proud to share it with all of you.
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Last week you went to the HRC dinner and I know
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this because my spouse went with you and your
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spouse and I believe your sister in law person.
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Right. And we talked about on last week's show
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that you were going to go. But now. You have
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gone and the HRC dinner was on National Coming
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Out Day. How was the dinner like how was the
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event itself? Let's start there. I will say this
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year going to try to. you know, not to be too
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critical here, but I there were some issues this
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year that hasn't happened in previous years.
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So and I believe that you caught on to this Alex,
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they downsized, they went into a smaller venue.
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And I believe that is due to some corporate sponsors
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pulling support like local Seattle corporate
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sponsor sponsors pulling support. So they went
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into a smaller area. which made it a little hectic
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because when you walk in you have like a silent
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auction going on so you're supposed to walk around
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the items well there wasn't really anywhere to
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stand so everyone was standing in front of silent
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auction items and yeah chatting so it was a little
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chaotic but once you got actually into like the
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dinner part I'm not gonna lie There were like
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two times where I was trying not to cry because
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it was very sad so one guest speaker was a survivor
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of the 2016 Orlando shooting that happened and
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I believe like 49 people including his partner
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died So he was talking about that and very inspirational
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very it was a great it was a great speech I am
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very moving, but definitely tried not to cry.
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I there was a lot of things about it. Let me
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pause here. So I it was on national coming out
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day. I wore makeup and address to this event.
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And then I posted on social media. I am coming
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out officially as trans. I am to pretty much
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like everyone. that I did not deem super important
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that I should tell before they just find out
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on social media and I was expecting so I like
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did it kind of shut off my phone and I was expecting
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to wake up the next day having to delete and
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block a lot of people from Florida. So back to
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the speeches. A lot of it was about trans rights
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and That kind of stuff so definitely very moving
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very emotional um Yeah, the food this year was
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okay Yes, I heard about the food I'm so So you
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have you have like three options you have I'm
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also gonna partially put that on the venue yeah,
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I I would agree with that and so you have a I
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don't care what you give me option. Then you
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have a vegetarian option and then you have a
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gluten free option. I got the I don't care what
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you give me option, which was some fish on a
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bed of corn. It was okay. But the person next
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to me got the vegetarian option and somehow had
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like fettuccine Alfredo and I was like so wanted
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that. I was like, oh, man, I should get the.
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And they didn't tell you ahead of time, like
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which one was they were like, I don't care, vegetarian
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or gluten free. That's all you got to know ahead
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of time. Well, it was like a meat option, like,
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you know, like, do you want do you want meat
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or do you want gluten free or do you want vegetarian?
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And I chose the meat one. But they didn't tell
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you what each option actually meant. That's no.
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That's weird, right? That's weird. That's definitely
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weird. No, it's not weird. That's just. Man,
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come on. Because what if I did better? You know?
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Yeah, I'm just eating corn. I don't know. Yeah.
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Anyways, it was a great time. It was a great
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night. Loved it. I am actually one. As I thought
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it was funny, no one else thought it was funny.
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There is a local furry bar in Seattle. It is
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called. I think barely furry or hardly furry.
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I have heard about it. I have not seen it. I
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have not gone. Sounds like a great time. They
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do make their own beer. I do kind of want to
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check it out. They had like a little gift basket
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for auction. No one was bidding on it and I want
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it. And I kind of like, I don't know. I thought
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it was funny. So I want a beanie and like a scarf
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from thing barely. Furry. My wife unsurprisingly
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won wine. A lot of wine. Yes, I'm aware. She
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is. So she literally is sitting there and she
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goes, Hey, I want some wine. I was like, Oh,
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good. Good for you. She goes, No. Can you help
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me carry it back to your car? And then I said,
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Well, how much did you win? And her response
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was literally. I don't know. I was like, oh,
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no, I was like, oh, here we go. She texted me
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during the thing to be like, can I bid on that?
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I was like, yeah, I mean, you're supporting it.
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It cuts. You go to look for those that have not
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been to like a nonprofit like benefit Gala dinner.
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Right. They do these auctions, these things all
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the time. Because what you're doing is the local
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businesses who are supplying the prizes, they
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don't. Make the the company pay for the prizes,
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right? So like the wine companies are like here
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have 20 bottles of free wine and go auction it
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whatever right they get a tax write -off when
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you buy it all the cash that you spend to auction
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buy it is Is given to the the nonprofit organization
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in this case the HRC the human rights campaign
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If you drink wine on game nights, dude, I wish
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you would drink more of that wine I've got so
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much No, you people do not go to the HRC in furry
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costume, or are you asking about the bar? The
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HRC is a formal event. Slightly furry. That's
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what it's called. Slightly furry. That is the
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name. Did you catch the question about pronouns
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in the chat? I did not. Where is that one? Are
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you sticking with them or are you going to see
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her now? Well, have we decided yet? So so much
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has happened in the past week. So literally that
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same week I did go talk about HRT in Seattle
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at a place called Planned Parenthood not a place
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I would have expected to be a good place to go
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talk to HRT. However, it is a great place. So
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if you're listening to this and you are thinking
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about transitioning I highly recommend Planned
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Parenthood why because as I was sitting there
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everyone coming and going was trans second They
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are super friendly, the nicest medical staff
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I have ever talked to because they're trying
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to put you at ease. Third, they will assign you
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a transition specialist that will help you with
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the entire process of working with surgeons and
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doctors and everything that you want, even if
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it's not something that they offer. And they
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work with the doctor and they work with your
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insurance company. So it's like a one stop shop.
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So that is really great. Again, did not expect
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Planned Parenthood to be Like the place to go,
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but evidently it is news to me. So there, you
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know, there, you know, so I did get clear to
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start HRT whenever I want. And then I did meet
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with the psychiatrist who stated that, yes, this.
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Everything kind of checks out and they I have
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to have like a second appointment with them and
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then they will be writing a letter to my insurance
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company. I'm stating that I have gender dysphoria.
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Why does that matter? Because I want insurance
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to cover everything and I don't want to pay out
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of pocket. So back to pronouns, why does this
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all tie to pronouns? I feel like the crazy guy
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from always sunny with the different strings
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and I'm just like, why does this matter? Me personally,
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I'm sticking with they them. This is a little
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weird. thing for me I Kind of feel like I have
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not this is me just me not speaking for the trans
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community at all I've been told I have a weird
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way of thinking about this whatever I am I feel
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like I have not earned she her pronouns yet,
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that is just me I am to each your own so I will
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switch to she her pronouns at some point, I think
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probably after I go through puberty of HRT. And
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we are testing out like a name change. So I don't
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know, I'll probably stay J on the channel. But
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who knows? That's that's everything. What else
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do you want to know? HRT also I have a eight
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pound Triangle block of Beecher's cheese in my
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fridge right now from the HRC event. There you
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go. It's a giant triangle of cheese. Beecher's
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cheese is fucking awesome. Yeah. Amazing. But
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that's a lot of cheese. Eight pounds of cheese.
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As the. The First I I'm gonna echo the chat and
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say good for you Jay. I'm happy for you I want
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you to to do what is gonna make you The most
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complete of a person Does that make sense? Yeah,
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that makes sense be a complete person Okay, and
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that's the important thing, right? That's what
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we want for everyone Public Okay I want you to
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be a complete person. I'm happy for you. We're
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here to support you. Obviously, my spouse supports
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you, et cetera, et cetera. You know, we do that.
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We do the deeper talks, folks with people when
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Jay and I are not in front of cameras. So fuck
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you. Jay knows how I feel anyway, but I do want
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to say yes. Okay. In case you guys didn't figure
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this out, this channel is a place where we talk
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about this kind of stuff as much as Jay is comfortable,
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right? Where we will talk about these things
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and we will have these subjects, okay? And if
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you're not comfortable with that, here's what
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I'm gonna do, actually. If you're not comfortable
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with it, I wanna challenge you. I want to challenge
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you to stick the fuck around. Right? Don't be
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an asshole in chat because even if you don't
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agree with it and even if it makes you uncomfortable,
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that doesn't mean you need to open your mouth.
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We talked about this earlier in the show. You
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can keep some thoughts to yourself. Hold it in.
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But I do want to challenge you to stick the fuck
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around. I want you to stick around so that maybe
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you learn some stuff. And maybe just maybe I'm
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not saying we're trying to force an agenda. What
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I'm saying is, is. Allow for the fact that maybe
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the reason you're fucking uncomfortable is because
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you've been around it a whole lot and you just
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don't know a lot about it. And here's the thing,
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at the end of the day. Jay is still the person
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who. Who I go do movie reviews with, right? We
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go to dinner. They are my wife's co -worker.
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They are someone who is in our lives, right?
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At the end of the day, regardless of what Jay's
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pronouns were or whether Jay had a beard or does
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not have a beard or was using he, him, or they,
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it doesn't fucking matter. The fact of the matter
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is, Jay is still the same person. Okay? Again,
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if you're uncomfortable, I challenge you to stick
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around and see if that helps. Okay, I can't don't
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be a dickhead in my chat or my comment section,
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but Stick around to see if it helps Okay No,
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that was actually entirely coincidence the color
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my wife periodically will change the colors She'll
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log into the app and be like now it's fucking
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red because Alice's man Okay No, it's entirely
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good That's a blue lightsaber that won't change
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colors. Hang on right there. Okay, so that is
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a blue lightsaber these lights up here These
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LEDs they will change colors. I have one set
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of studio light that comes this way I used to
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have two but what I'm burned out or no, sorry
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the cord cable ripped Lighting is a pain in the
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ass in case you didn't know It is oh my god That
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somebody somebody to chat in YouTube chat is
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calling me Spicy Mr. Rogers. I like it. I like
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it. Oh, yeah. There it goes. There it goes. I
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don't know. Maybe that'll be our new segment.
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Spicy Mr. Rogers. Spicy Mr. We're going to have
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to come up. We're going to have to come up with.
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Actually, that's not a terrible idea. We you
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know what we need to do. That will be it. This
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will be an improvement for the show. We're going
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to get we're going to get some standardized segments.
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I see a lot of shows do this. We don't. We haven't.
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You know, we didn't get some. Maybe maybe we
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do need like. I can. Spicy Mr. Rogers is inspiring
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me. Maybe it's maybe it's fucking some some Sesame
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Street shit we need to do on this show. Right.
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To help people out, fucking meet your neighbor's
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time. Yep. I love it. Oh, that is good. Oh, I
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love that. Yeah, I'm writing this down. Write
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that down. I am writing it down right now. Oh,
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God. Spicy Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street segment.
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Oh, that one's really good. Yeah. Purple's purple
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is appropriate. OK. And again, just to put everybody's
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fucking minds at ease, if you thought that everybody
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on this show or anybody on this show the whole
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time was completely heterosexual, you were 100
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% wrong. Suck it, nerds. Okay, if you thought
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that was the case, because it ain't true. Ain't
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nobody here fucking straight. Okay. And again,
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if you're uncomfortable with that, I encourage
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you to stick around. OK. Because you might learn
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some shit. We're also not going to pressure Jay
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to share any more or less of their process than
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they feel like sharing. Hey, we still will talk
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about politics and video games and movies. Yeah,
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because that's interesting. That is really interesting.
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OK. Bojay and I are waiting for shrinking season
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three. Maybe that'll be a segment. You all need
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to watch shrinking. Oh, my God. It's one by the
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way. Real quick, talking about therapy. Everyone
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says, like, become a lawyer, become a doctor,
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become an engineer. Yeah. I talked to my therapist
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about, like, one, how do you become a licensed
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therapist? I can't. Hey, how much do they make
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like industry standard? How much do you typically
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pay fresh out of college? You have a license.
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How much do you get paid? Not much. Oh, it is
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a lot. Is it? It's a lot for that kind of therapist
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or for a straight counselor, for any sort of
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licensed therapist. OK. And they are making a
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hundred and thirty dollars per hour. And typically,
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she said her colleagues, all of her friends do
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somewhere around thirty two therapy hours per
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week. Do the math on that. Spoiler alert. It's
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like two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars
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a year. Yeah, but that's before they account
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for their overhead costs and stuff like that.
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Office do to do to do. So, no, that's if you
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work for an office like the office is paying
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you to be. Oh, yeah, that's what they pay. They're
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charging more. The office is charging more than
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that to cover their overhead costs like rent
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a check. Dog Dad said a career change on top
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of everything, Jay. Well, I that I mean. That
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is way. Can I can I hit that? Can I let me get
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this out is you were worried you were going to
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have to make a career change today. I take it
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that did not come to pass. Dang. You actually
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like I talk to people, don't you? My wife says
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words. Occasionally I hear her. Yeah, so my.
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company who just had layoffs who this week is
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currently really trying to hammer out budget
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stuff. My boss's boss said, Hey, Jay, I want
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to talk to you about your position. Ooh, mysterious.
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And then someone else asked. Hey Jay because
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this was like tomorrow. I want to talk to you
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about your position then another person Who would
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be the person that would probably be packing
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up my stuff as I'm being? Laid off or fired was
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like hey, I just want to make sure you're gonna
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be in the office tomorrow, and I was like Yeah,
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I'm gonna be there yeah, I'll be there cool awesome,
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but turned out Huge misunderstanding. I'm. Very
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yeah. It was a huge misunderstanding. I am. And
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then they asked me, you know. If I would like
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to have my. Job as a redefined it and I said.
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I feel like I'm not going to have a job if I
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say no, so yes, I would still like to keep my
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job as you redefine my job. Thank you. Yeah,
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that was today. Having a job is good, though.
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Having a job is really good, especially in this
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market right now. Yep. So all right, folks, 9
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45. We've been going here.